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Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:25 pm
by Nezza Faz
jondebaptist20 wrote:yes he has shown interest in both clubs but the fa stepped in rejecting his interest because of his ties to rugby league.
Surely, you mean the FA stopped any move, not because of his ownership of Warriors, but that he also owns (or part-owns) Oxford City FC, which could compromise that sport if any conflicts arose, especially if those two teams played against each other. Owning a RL Club doesn't affect the football competition in any similar way.
I think the chairman of Huddersfield also owns the football club, and if not mistaken, the same thing happens at Hull FC/Hull City.
Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:55 pm
by Mike
jondebaptist20 wrote:yes he has shown interest in both clubs but the fa stepped in rejecting his interest because of his ties to rugby league.
That'd be funny considering he owns Oxford. I imagine you're not allowed to own more than one footabll club in the English competition at a time. No rule about owning teams in other sports.
Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:47 am
by HGWarrior
Nezza Faz wrote:jondebaptist20 wrote:yes he has shown interest in both clubs but the fa stepped in rejecting his interest because of his ties to rugby league.
Surely, you mean the FA stopped any move, not because of his ownership of Warriors, but that he also owns (or part-owns) Oxford City FC, which could compromise that sport if any conflicts arose, especially if those two teams played against each other. Owning a RL Club doesn't affect the football competition in any similar way.
I think the chairman of Huddersfield also owns the football club, and if not mistaken, the same thing happens at Hull FC/Hull City.
They didn't stop Whelan owning both! I don't think IL has the money to buy latics. Not onlythat,where is the business sense. Most clubs in the football league are losing money. My worry is that because latics have been relegated, their attendances will decrease, Sky money will stop therefore gate prices at Warriors games will have to increase. IL indicated this at the last (last but one?) fans forum when latics were facing relegation previously.
Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:28 am
by bourbon_rat
As someone who never ever had a desire to follow a 'round ball' team I find this sign.............comforting :sly:

Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:40 pm
by josie andrews
bourbon_rat wrote:As someone who never ever had a desire to follow a 'round ball' team I find this sign.............comforting :sly:

Love it George, gonna pinch that if you don't mind

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Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:41 am
by DaveO
HGWarrior wrote:My worry is that because latics have been relegated, their attendances will decrease, Sky money will stop therefore gate prices at Warriors games will have to increase. IL indicated this at the last (last but one?) fans forum when latics were facing relegation previously.
Surely that would depend on the terms of the lease? It would be a poor businessman that exposes his company (in this case Wigan RL) to effectively what is an open ended commitment to increasing expenses based on the fortunes of something out of his control (Latics).
Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:17 pm
by Kittwazzer
DaveO wrote:HGWarrior wrote:My worry is that because latics have been relegated, their attendances will decrease, Sky money will stop therefore gate prices at Warriors games will have to increase. IL indicated this at the last (last but one?) fans forum when latics were facing relegation previously.
Surely that would depend on the terms of the lease? It would be a poor businessman that exposes his company (in this case Wigan RL) to effectively what is an open ended commitment to increasing expenses based on the fortunes of something out of his control (Latics).
Its a 50 year lease Dave but it will be subject to regular rent reviews. The next one should be interesting!
Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:54 pm
by DaveO
Kittwazzer wrote:DaveO wrote:HGWarrior wrote:My worry is that because latics have been relegated, their attendances will decrease, Sky money will stop therefore gate prices at Warriors games will have to increase. IL indicated this at the last (last but one?) fans forum when latics were facing relegation previously.
Surely that would depend on the terms of the lease? It would be a poor businessman that exposes his company (in this case Wigan RL) to effectively what is an open ended commitment to increasing expenses based on the fortunes of something out of his control (Latics).
Its a 50 year lease Dave but it will be subject to regular rent reviews. The next one should be interesting!
Even then I can't see the terms allowing Wigan RL to he fleeced via unreasonable rent increases.
We use it far fewer times than Latics, don't make any money out of the concessions and as it is a modern stadium I would imagine the fixed running costs are not that great anyway.
Game day expenses such as stewarding and policing won't be part of any rent either.
I suppose Latics could try it on and suggest we pay 50% of the fixed costs even though we use it far less but given there is no one else going to take our place Wigan RL are in a strong bargaining position.
Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:55 pm
by Kittwazzer
Kittwazzer wrote:DaveO wrote:
Its a 50 year lease Dave but it will be subject to regular rent reviews. The next one should be interesting!
Even then I can't see the terms allowing Wigan RL to he fleeced via unreasonable rent increases.
We use it far fewer times than Latics, don't make any money out of the concessions and as it is a modern stadium I would imagine the fixed running costs are not that great anyway.
Game day expenses such as stewarding and policing won't be part of any rent either.
I suppose Latics could try it on and suggest we pay 50% of the fixed costs even though we use it far less but given there is no one else going to take our place Wigan RL are in a strong bargaining position.
Correct, and they will be using it an awful lot more next season. I shudder to think what state the pitch will be in come next February. Maybe we'll have a case for a rent reduction!
Re: Will it effect us if Latics go down?
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:51 pm
by Owd Codger
Kittwazzer wrote:Kittwazzer wrote:DaveO wrote:
Its a 50 year lease Dave but it will be subject to regular rent reviews. The next one should be interesting!
Even then I can't see the terms allowing Wigan RL to he fleeced via unreasonable rent increases.
We use it far fewer times than Latics, don't make any money out of the concessions and as it is a modern stadium I would imagine the fixed running costs are not that great anyway.
Game day expenses such as stewarding and policing won't be part of any rent either.
I suppose Latics could try it on and suggest we pay 50% of the fixed costs even though we use it far less but given there is no one else going to take our place Wigan RL are in a strong bargaining position.
Correct, and they will be using it an awful lot more next season. I shudder to think what state the pitch will be in come next February. Maybe we'll have a case for a rent reduction!
At least we will not be subject to the Premier League rule about not playing a certain time before the Latic's or will we still be, seeing that Whelan regrettably owns the Stadium ?