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DaveO wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:37 pm

Euclid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:28 pm I could be over reacting here, but this team is reminiscent of some poor earlier Wigan teams ( thinking, for example, of George Fairbairns one man efforts to keep Wigan going). Like others of my age group, I was spoiled by watching the great Wigan teams of yore, but the current team seems a group of journeymen with only two absolutely top class players, obviously French and Field. I’m well aware that we can’t just go out and buy success but we we seem to recruit poorly, and fail to develop young prospects.
The team did so well last year to win the Challenge cup, but I really believe that most of our current players aren’t anywhere near what I would describe as Wigan standard.
I’d love to be wrong and see us win the double, but I don’t have much confidence in that happening.
Sadly, I can’t suggest a solution that doesn’t involve a major restructure.
Somebody cheer me up please!

I think you are right but we will not get a restructure. I just have the impression everyone is too pally at Wigan. The coach doesn’t need to be mates with the players (the great John Monie definitely wasn’t) and those running the club don’t need to be mates with the coach either. If they are it just makes it hard to be ruthless and make the tough decisions to replace those not good enough be that players or coach.

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:09 pm Love it that the experts don't pop on until we lose then like a rare tasmainan devil there's sighting

We have not just been French and Field this season at all. Unless of course you believe sky.

Defence lost us that game, it was the opposite of what we had been seeing before the half term break.

Wintergreen wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:50 pm

DaveO wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:37 pm

Euclid wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:28 pm I could be over reacting here, but this team is reminiscent of some poor earlier Wigan teams ( thinking, for example, of George Fairbairns one man efforts to keep Wigan going). Like others of my age group, I was spoiled by watching the great Wigan teams of yore, but the current team seems a group of journeymen with only two absolutely top class players, obviously French and Field. I’m well aware that we can’t just go out and buy success but we we seem to recruit poorly, and fail to develop young prospects.
The team did so well last year to win the Challenge cup, but I really believe that most of our current players aren’t anywhere near what I would describe as Wigan standard.
I’d love to be wrong and see us win the double, but I don’t have much confidence in that happening.
Sadly, I can’t suggest a solution that doesn’t involve a major restructure.
Somebody cheer me up please!

I think you are right but we will not get a restructure. I just have the impression everyone is too pally at Wigan. The coach doesn’t need to be mates with the players (the great John Monie definitely wasn’t) and those running the club don’t need to be mates with the coach either. If they are it just makes it hard to be ruthless and make the tough decisions to replace those not good enough be that players or coach.

I can tell you with certainty that he was.

I hear all the chatter about Peet being this and that but have seen very little tactical nous when a game is going pear shaped.

I agree and have said in the past though that we rely on Field and French to pull the rabbit out of the hat way too much.

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:09 pm Love it that the experts don't pop on until we lose then like a rare tasmainan devil there's sighting

DaveO wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:25 pm

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:09 pm Love it that the experts don't pop on until we lose then like a rare tasmainan devil there's sighting

And if I had a penny for every time you come on here saying posters don’t pop up until we lose I’d be rich.

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:34 pm

DaveO wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:25 pm

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:09 pm Love it that the experts don't pop on until we lose then like a rare tasmainan devil there's sighting

And if I had a penny for every time you come on here saying posters don’t pop up until we lose I’d be rich.

When the shoe fits
You'd also have about 5p, pointing out the obvious is boring.

Firestarter wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:44 pm

jackthelad wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:13 pm Well well well, so poor its unbelievable

Recent posts talk about our new and improved 3/4 line, great centres and wingers etc... never had any attack to utilise any of them

One man boring sh1te rugby, quite pathetic that performance

Mago belly laughing after the game with a Leeds player, not arsed about being turned over at home, really!! Unbelievable!!

Needs a change of attitude or go home IMO not on his own either after tonight's display

Pretty much what i thought.Bit weird giving cust a game without a warm up yet hampshire gets a warm up but no games.Lacked speed on the wings today and surely we would be more creative with shorrocks at loose.Powell was shocking today and must surely be dropped next week along with KPP.