Mason's wages

[highland convert]

Hypothetical question. Willie mason comes on a three year contract @ £120k per year. He is also employeed as a front man for GGB sportswear at £250K per annum. For this he must attend functions, sponser the brand at tradefairs etc. (David Beckham makes millions doing this as does many other sports personalities) Where does the sponser money come in the salery cap? Private income or backhander? Willie said what his contract was worth. It may be totally different to how it is made up. It is his agents job to broker these deals. Interesting twist, HC

[GeoffN]

highland convert posted:
Hypothetical question. Willie mason comes on a three year contract @ £120k per year. He is also employeed as a front man for GGB sportswear at £250K per annum. For this he must attend functions, sponser the brand at tradefairs etc. (David Beckham makes millions doing this as does many other sports personalities) Where does the sponser money come in the salery cap? Private income or backhander? Willie said what his contract was worth. It may be totally different to how it is made up. It is his agents job to broker these deals. Interesting twist, HC

Any income like that counts under the cap rules.

[vikingstorm]

And that is Ultimately Totally ridiculous.

Personally I'm no fan of salary capping. Its "restriction on trade", it stops average teams from becoming "great teams".............although of course I understand the concept and why it is in place.

Widnes were allegedly Full time last year, I know of several players who earned money outside of Rugby League (One fitted Kitchens as an example and earmed another 20K on top of his 34K salary- I know this because he did my Kitchen)- This is therefore 54K a year, which aint too bad.

[GeoffN]

vikingstorm posted:
And that is Ultimately Totally ridiculous.

Personally I'm no fan of salary capping. Its "restriction on trade", it stops average teams from becoming "great teams".............although of course I understand the concept and why it is in place.

Widnes were allegedly Full time last year, I know of several players who earned money outside of Rugby League (One fitted Kitchens as an example and earmed another 20K on top of his 34K salary- I know this because he did my Kitchen)- This is therefore 54K a year, which aint too bad.

That would be perfectly OK, as regards the cap rules, unless the kitchen firm was connected with the club in any way; eg as a sponsor, or if one of the club directors had an interest in it.

The rule says:

6.11.1 Any payments to players made by organisations or individuals who are connected with
the club by issue of shareholding, mutuality of directors or sponsorship agreements;

The other, often quoted "loophole, of employing a players partner in some role, is covered by this one:

Any payment made to any relative or associate of a player or any other person, which, in
the opinion of the Salary Cap Auditor, relates to the player’s services (past, present or
future) to the club;

The full salary cap rules can be seen on the RFL site:

http://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/client ... rt%205.pdf

[highland convert]

Sorry GGB was a bad example, NIKE sponser or Moben Kitchens for thet matter sponser Willie. No connection to RFL other that it wants fans to buy its product do the sponsership. What I am sayying Willie Mason by reputation has a salable name. His agents job is to sell it. No club can afford one quarter of the salery cap on a single player. Outside interests could boost the wage considerably, HC

[cpwigan]

Personally I do not think Mason will come BUT the posts already highlight why rhe cap is silly.

Another way around it. Mason wants to box. Frank Warren offers him X amount BUT he has to play RL in Britain.

[pedro]

Pay him 500k to playa gamr for Harlequins RU which Lennagan still owns I think.

[highland convert]

Take it a stage further. France, maybe next year Wales or lebanon want in to SL. RFL are too low profile to attract the attention they want. What is holding it back. The salery cap! Players do not get to sell themselves where their names will be heard and sport highlighted. Union sells itself. JW and many others are household name. They in turn attract new following. Unless league sells itself as a product with household names and a product worth selling it will dwindle to a series followed by the faithful few. Names once great in leagues history will die or be the play thing of the super rich. People who put figures in most would not achieve on a lottery roll over. Scotland played Wales in Glasgow. Most spectators were children in on free tickets. Many had comp tickets. I paid the price sum of £5.00 for mine. Now the SRL must get enough funds to send players down under. The game was played on a school pitch. Something is wrong. Rugby league has a great product being destroyed by incompitence. Sky is doing it no favours with the goon show. They turned the third game into a Wellens testimonial. You have to be a fan just to watch otherwise the tripe and verbal diarhoea makes you change channels. Parcel the game up as a spectacular product, Let the elite earn what they are worth, encourage players to get sponsership deals, get their names household throughout the uk. Fielden opening a car boot sale in Wigan will not rock the boat. Fielden selling washing powder on national telly will. Maso coming to UK would rock the boat only if his bad boy background was national news. People would watch to see what he was up to. If mason is just a name on the teamsheet, nothing. What I am trying to say is that unles you get enough interest in individuals within the game the game will not grow. If every expert, guest, coach or big name player has to be from south of the equator it will be more of a put off than awitch on. Personally I am sick of the sound of Robby Paul and Shaun Macrae. To be brutally honest the RL has a slum image, played by neanderthals in a heartland of lower class England. I am not saying it is true. I am saying that is what the uneducated outsiders believe. That needs changing. Continue a scheme that rejects success is not the way forward. It is a bit like the rule banning school sports because you are not allowedto have losers. Someone tried to introduce that one. OK time to pass this over to be pulled to bits, HC

[randy-warrior-2008]

i would love it if he came to us

[ian.birchall]

pedro posted:
Pay him 500k to playa gamr for Harlequins RU which Lennagan still owns I think.

Nah, he has nowt to do with Harlequins RU just Quins RL. Could he play in the same team as Stuart 'Glass Jaw' Fielden??