Wigan Warriors have 'evolved' attacking style in 2015 - Dorm

[josie andrews]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/32414015

[Wiganer Ted]

We've had two styles of play in the main.
One for playing in the mud and another should we get a dry ground.
Nothing to see how we'd "evolved" against Brisbane and Saints they were two slogs in the mud.
Against Warrington we played as per usual by out flanking the opposition with plays going out wide.
Four trys right side with three by Manfredi, one to Gelling.
Two left sided for Hampshire and Farrel both from passes by Burgess.

The only way we've improved and that's dramatically is by having Hampshire at full back. He's a great improvement on Bowen and our attack is now far faster and very polished.
Such a shame for Bowen, a great player with a great career but I do think Wigan has been a club too far for him.

If Dorn was meaning evolving from Bowen to Hampshire I'd agree with him. I don't think he actually meant that though although he might have.

[Smokie Jim]

[quote="Wiganer Ted"]We've had two styles of play in the main.
One for playing in the mud and another should we get a dry ground.
Nothing to see how we'd "evolved" against Brisbane and Saints they were two slogs in the mud.
Against Warrington we played as per usual by out flanking the opposition with plays going out wide.
Four trys right side with three by Manfredi, one to Gelling.
Two left sided for Hampshire and Farrel both from passes by Burgess.

The only way we've improved and that's dramatically is by having Hampshire at full back. He's a great improvement on Bowen and our attack is now far faster and very polished.
Such a shame for Bowen, a great
player with a great career but I do think Wigan has been a club too far for him


Actually I don't think our attacking style improvement is down to one player. Dare I say I believe it's down to 'wane ball now gelling( excuse the pun). It's St George 's day. Let's celebrate with putting Wakey to the sword????

[morley pie eater]

I think Wane is trying to introduce more offloading to our game, perhaps to counter opposition defences adapting to Waneball?

Average offloads per game 2010-2013 was consistently about 10 or just under. In 2014 it was less than 8, the lowest in SL.

So far this season we are averaging 12 per game (3rd= in SL) with 18 versus Wire.

[PaulC]

We've had two styles of play in the main.
One for playing in the mud and another should we get a dry ground.
Nothing to see how we'd "evolved" against Brisbane and Saints they were two slogs in the mud.
Against Warrington we played as per usual by out flanking the opposition with plays going out wide.
Four trys right side with three by Manfredi, one to Gelling.
Two left sided for Hampshire and Farrel both from passes by Burgess.

The only way we've improved and that's dramatically is by having Hampshire at full back. He's a great improvement on Bowen and our attack is now far faster and very polished.
Such a shame for Bowen, a great player with a great career but I do think Wigan has been a club too far for him.

If Dorn was meaning evolving from Bowen to Hampshire I'd agree with him. I don't think he actually meant that though although he might have.

I agree with this. I do think bateman and willians really add that suprise to the centre too.

Single biggest change for me is that lack of penalties we now give away!

[yokozuna]

We've had two styles of play in the main.
One for playing in the mud and another should we get a dry ground.
Nothing to see how we'd "evolved" against Brisbane and Saints they were two slogs in the mud.
Against Warrington we played as per usual by out flanking the opposition with plays going out wide.
Four trys right side with three by Manfredi, one to Gelling.
Two left sided for Hampshire and Farrel both from passes by Burgess.

The only way we've improved and that's dramatically is by having Hampshire at full back. He's a great improvement on Bowen and our attack is now far faster and very polished.
Such a shame for Bowen, a great player with a great career but I do think Wigan has been a club too far for him.

If Dorn was meaning evolving from Bowen to Hampshire I'd agree with him. I don't think he actually meant that though although he might have.

I agree with this. I do think bateman and willians really add that suprise to the centre too.

Single biggest change for me is that lack of penalties we now give away!

I thought the game against Warrington last week was surprisingly clean all round. Can't remember any particularly nasty/high/late hits, which is surprising from both sides.

The players and Wane deserve some credit for that, but so does the ref.

[cpwigan]

The difference is offloading other than that it is exactly the same attack wherever. The biggest drawback is Waneball does not towards setting up last tackle kicks and repeat sets. Nevertheless, Waneball should encompass high risk strategies such as offloading.

[weststand-rich]

Well last night exemplified the risks of this attacking style. Against Wire, we 'got away' with throwing the ball about 5 metres out from the posts. Amateur coaches tell kids not to throw the ball about in your own half. Last night showed the risks of doing it and that against a team in real dire straights.

TTs stupid pass after running 30 metres sideways?

Getting bundled backwards for a GLD?

[markill]

The difference is offloading other than that it is exactly the same attack wherever. The biggest drawback is Waneball does not towards setting up last tackle kicks and repeat sets. Nevertheless, Waneball should encompass high risk strategies such as offloading.

So Waneball of a philosophy of high risk rather than a pattern of play now. They adapt it by bringing in an offloading game and taking more forward runs, but whenever it doesn't work it's still Waneball. The offload game is more like Smithball. Plus how much more is Mickey running out of dummy half before tipping it off to a forward nowadays. Smithball again.

[TrueBlueWarrior]

Well last night exemplified the risks of this attacking style. Against Wire, we 'got away' with throwing the ball about 5 metres out from the posts. Amateur coaches tell kids not to throw the ball about in your own half. Last night showed the risks of doing it and that against a team in real dire straights.

TTs stupid pass after running 30 metres sideways?

Getting bundled backwards for a GLD?

So did we not get away with it last night?