hatton v pacman

[OAMJSONA]

Hatton unfortunatley was not good enough against both mayweather and Pac

He as been a good boxer but not it is time for him to retire

[Panchitta Marra]

well if popular rumour is to be believed, Mayweather jnr has run into problems with the tax man...supposedly to the tune of $5million. he was too young to retire anyway & his ego wouldn't let him not fight Pacquiao.

Roach is one of the best in the business. the say a coach doesn't make a fighter, but they go along way towards it. Roach will have to work hard on Khan's defence because he has a very suspect chin. Don't like Khan, but that's because I don't like his fans.

I may be wrong, And I sincerely hope I am, in that Khan has all the atributes to turn into another Prince Nazeen Ahmed.

[Wigan_forever1985]

well if popular rumour is to be believed, Mayweather jnr has run into problems with the tax man...supposedly to the tune of $5million. he was too young to retire anyway & his ego wouldn't let him not fight Pacquiao.

Roach is one of the best in the business. the say a coach doesn't make a fighter, but they go along way towards it. Roach will have to work hard on Khan's defence because he has a very suspect chin. Don't like Khan, but that's because I don't like his fans.

I may be wrong, And I sincerely hope I am, in that Khan has all the atributes to turn into another Prince Nazeen Ahmed.

you are wrong but not for that reason. A lot of people copmpare the two fighters but you have to remember 1 simple thing. Naz's major flaw was his attitude, he had supreme power, fast hands, slick evasive skills and most of all a good chin. Trouble is warren did his usual trick of feeding him people he could demolish so when he fought barrera he just wasn't prepared. Had he been trained to use his skills he could of beat barrera instead he had no plan b and got a boxing lesson.

Khan has again 1 major flaw but that is his chin. Unfortuantly for him thats something you just cant train, and yes you can train defence but a class fighter will always get at least 2 or 3 big shots in per round. He will probably beat this guy he is being set up against but he wont reign for long if a decent challenge comes his way.

A good chin can get you rewards beyond fast hands and punch power, just look at carl froch, his chin makes up for his lack of boxing "skill" as of such he gives himself a good chance of beating any boxer because he is so difficult to knock down.

As for hatton well he has had 2 major knockouts now as of such he should retire. I have more respect for him than joe "fight the aged" calzaghe as he took the best at around about their best but unfortuantly he just wasn't up to standard. Maybe he waited too long to get a good trainer on board again fingers have got to point at the way warren hides fighters for so long

[- psycho -]

for those saying mayweather vs pacman, dont be so hasty, pretty boy flloyd will be lucky if he beats marquez, hes a class fighter, up there with pacquiao and thatl be a cracker, the fact mayweather isnt warming up for him is a worry, yes hes class but marquez is in pacmans league.

khan done well with roach and improvements are clearly visible. i hate how the country has turned against him. hes hardly cocky, just confident, if you want confidence, watch david haye's klitchsko promotion and take a look at his t shirt, thats cocky.

hatton, loads of respect but retire man.

[Panchitta Marra]

well if popular rumour is to be believed, Mayweather jnr has run into problems with the tax man...supposedly to the tune of $5million. he was too young to retire anyway & his ego wouldn't let him not fight Pacquiao.

Roach is one of the best in the business. the say a coach doesn't make a fighter, but they go along way towards it. Roach will have to work hard on Khan's defence because he has a very suspect chin. Don't like Khan, but that's because I don't like his fans.

I may be wrong, And I sincerely hope I am, in that Khan has all the atributes to turn into another Prince Nazeen Ahmed.

you are wrong but not for that reason. A lot of people copmpare the two fighters but you have to remember 1 simple thing. Naz's major flaw was his attitude, he had supreme power, fast hands, slick evasive skills and most of all a good chin. Trouble is warren did his usual trick of feeding him people he could demolish so when he fought barrera he just wasn't prepared. Had he been trained to use his skills he could of beat barrera instead he had no plan b and got a boxing lesson.

Khan has again 1 major flaw but that is his chin. Unfortuantly for him thats something you just cant train, and yes you can train defence but a class fighter will always get at least 2 or 3 big shots in per round. He will probably beat this guy he is being set up against but he wont reign for long if a decent challenge comes his way.

A good chin can get you rewards beyond fast hands and punch power, just look at carl froch, his chin makes up for his lack of boxing "skill" as of such he gives himself a good chance of beating any boxer because he is so difficult to knock down.

As for hatton well he has had 2 major knockouts now as of such he should retire. I have more respect for him than joe "fight the aged" calzaghe as he took the best at around about their best but unfortuantly he just wasn't up to standard. Maybe he waited too long to get a good trainer on board again fingers have got to point at the way warren hides fighters for so long

Its more the attitude I was relating to.
"Just look at me", the arrogance of Prince Nazeem.
In the end that was his Nazeem's big downfall, the need to wear the pig skin gloves, the need to show his religious beleifs in the ring before the fight started. In the end, where did it get him, a very poor second best against a then young Barrerra.
Like you, as an attacking boxer I like Khan, he is fast and aggresive. Sadly the chocolate jaw has already controlled the way his boxing future will go.
No training technique, leg strength or stamina can improve it that much.
I just hope he doesnt get totally arrogant like Prince Nazeem during his career.

[gpartin]

Hatton was never realistically going to beat Pacquiao it was predictable but Hatton was at the stage in his career where having won everything he needed to give the best a go, as he tried with Mayweather and I respect him for that. He is one of my favourite fighters character and passion wise and I will never forget his fight against Tszyu when he was written off by the yanks and proved them all wrong.


Khan has too much expected of him, he was lucky against Barrera imo and the rush for him to be world champ will be his downfall. His upcoming fight against Kotelnik will be too much too soon I feel, Kotelnik has beaten Gavin Rees amongst others and Rees has a far better chin than Khan. I don't see any reason why Frank Warren and co seem so eager to push him when he is only 22/23 although sparring with Manny Pacquiao has certainly done him good. They are building him up for a big fall.

[Wigan_forever1985]

Hatton was never realistically going to beat Pacquiao it was predictable but Hatton was at the stage in his career where having won everything he needed to give the best a go, as he tried with Mayweather and I respect him for that. He is one of my favourite fighters character and passion wise and I will never forget his fight against Tszyu when he was written off by the yanks and proved them all wrong.


Khan has too much expected of him, he was lucky against Barrera imo and the rush for him to be world champ will be his downfall. His upcoming fight against Kotelnik will be too much too soon I feel, Kotelnik has beaten Gavin Rees amongst others and Rees has a far better chin than Khan. I don't see any reason why Frank Warren and co seem so eager to push him when he is only 22/23 although sparring with Manny Pacquiao has certainly done him good. They are building him up for a big fall.

simple answer to that, Money.

key problem for warren is he was expecting khan to be another cash cow now calzaghe had left the stable. So signed him for 20 fights with sky PPV jobs a good'un. Except someone hadn't told Mr Prescott that Khan wasn't to be hit BAM first fight on PPV against an unknown (yet madly under-estimated!) he's knocked out in round 1. Now Warren has just signed a long deal with sky PPV this is the worse case sceanairo. Questions were alreay being raised over quality of opponent and the fact that no-one really knew this guy regardless of his talent seemed to back up the theory that Khan was a no hoper. So now the only way to get Khan putting bums on seats and Hands in wallets is to make him a world champ. The berrara fight was a gamble but a well estimated one coming up weights never favours fighters and barrera was never a massive puncher lower down, his best years and most his brain cells behind him they knew come fight night amir would be much heavier that atonio and even if he didn't have the quality his volume would be enouhg to convince people on home soil.

Now they need a valid world title for him. This guy is the least dangerous but the weight above so its still a huge gamble. Yeah he has beat Rees and he is durable, but for Khan nothing short of this would earn Warren any cash back, if he loses expect Amir to fade very much into obscurity

[gpartin]

I think that's what will happen, obscurity that is. I think its a shame because Khan will mature over the years and I think if they had taken their time with him there's no reason why he wouldnt be world champ at 26 for example, still with plenty of years to defend it. There is only one way for Amir now and that's down.

[Wigan_forever1985]

trouble is GP like i said in an earlier post he has no chin, and its just not something that you can train you either have it or not. While i have no doubt his speeds and power make him a handful in attack for anyone a good fighter will always be able to land and it seems with devastating effect.

The only out-clause warren has left himself is that he is moving amir up a weight, so i would imagine the next move should hae move up is to blame it on the weight and a re-match against prescott unfortuantly that only has one ending for amir.

[gpartin]

trouble is GP like i said in an earlier post he has no chin, and its just not something that you can train you either have it or not. While i have no doubt his speeds and power make him a handful in attack for anyone a good fighter will always be able to land and it seems with devastating effect.

The only out-clause warren has left himself is that he is moving amir up a weight, so i would imagine the next move should hae move up is to blame it on the weight and a re-match against prescott unfortuantly that only has one ending for amir.

Yeah, his chin is a liability and its not as if he's in the same league as Pacquiao who's that fast he can avoid the big hits. Lets face it Khan is a nothing fighter on a world scale.

Changing the subject but I have seen every one of David haye's pro fights and a few from his professional career, he is another one who is believing his own hype and if Wlad doesn't embarrass him then Vitali will.