Re: Warrington, it just gets silly.

gpartin · Post by **gpartin** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:04 pm

Dave, I never thought I'd say it but I think you are being naive. A multi millionaire could slip a player a few grand a week without anyone noticing.

butt monkey · Post by **butt monkey** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:16 pm

gpartin wrote:Dave, I never thought I'd say it but I think you are being naive. A multi millionaire could slip a player a few grand a week without anyone noticing.

Despite Dave's own comments/position regarding the cap on this forum, he admits on the RLFans site, that Warrington must have an "elastic cap". So your comment is a little unfair. I just think he is playing Devil's Advocate on the site.

gpartin · Post by **gpartin** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:20 pm

butt monkey wrote:
gpartin wrote:Dave, I never thought I'd say it but I think you are being naive. A multi millionaire could slip a player a few grand a week without anyone noticing.
Despite Dave's own comments/position regarding the cap on this forum, he admits on the RLFans site, that Warrington must have an "elastic cap". So your comment is a little unfair. I just think he is playing Devil's Advocate on the site.

Haven't read RLFans but had no intention of being unfair but I think Dave can take it if so

weststand-rich · Post by **weststand-rich** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:59 pm

I think with the Wire rumours, the reason they are attracting so much attention and bad smell is that they are so obviously not replacing like for like. If a club is paying up to the cap limit, then you'd expect similar strata of quality to be leaving and coming in.

With Wire they are retaining their top notch players and the incoming players are consistently better than those leaving and if Moi Moi and Eastmond do pan out then they have to be taking the piss.

It doesn't feel right or smell right.

Kittwazzer · Post by **Kittwazzer** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:28 am

I enjoy this thread, but surely the Authorities must be totally aware of everything which is being said on here, and then some?

At some point, someone is bound to be looking into all this!

DaveO · Post by **DaveO** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:14 am

butt monkey wrote:
gpartin wrote:Dave, I never thought I'd say it but I think you are being naive. A multi millionaire could slip a player a few grand a week without anyone noticing.
Despite Dave's own comments/position regarding the cap on this forum, he admits on the RLFans site, that Warrington must have an "elastic cap". So your comment is a little unfair. I just think he is playing Devil's Advocate on the site.

It's more the other way around. That was a one off comment that got a response I was expecting from the resident Wire fan in that thread.

I don't think it is naive to think if the cap were easy to break it would have ceased to function long before now.

Dave

gpartin · Post by **gpartin** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:39 am

DaveO wrote:
butt monkey wrote:
gpartin wrote:Dave, I never thought I'd say it but I think you are being naive. A multi millionaire could slip a player a few grand a week without anyone noticing.
Despite Dave's own comments/position regarding the cap on this forum, he admits on the RLFans site, that Warrington must have an "elastic cap". So your comment is a little unfair. I just think he is playing Devil's Advocate on the site.
It's more the other way around. That was a one off comment that got a response I was expecting from the resident Wire fan in that thread.

I don't think it is naive to think if the cap were easy to break it would have ceased to function long before now.

Dave

Perhaps its just been waiting for someone to come along who's not afraid to spend a few quid out of their own back pocket? I'm not accusing anyone of fiddling at all with my comments and this isn't specific to Warrington but where there's a will there's a way. The cap is always going to have to rely some degree on honesty from the clubs, in every business there is dishonesty and people looking for loopholes or ways of cheating the system. Rugby League is no different. On a small scale I worked with hundreds of suppliers trying to get sales contracts. Within ten minutes I could have setup an imaginary supplier authorised a payment to them and deleted the record of the payment should I have wanted to.. I have no doubt there was some serious fraud going on all the time but unless someone who received money in error reported it nobody would be any the wiser. The amount of money which could make a serious difference to a rugby player is pocket money to someone with millions and whats to say the player can't be paid in 5 years time when he's forgotten about and moved on? Nobody knows but if I were a betting man I would bet that there are fiddles going on at more than one club.

standishwarrior · Post by **standishwarrior** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:23 am

gpartin wrote:Dave, I never thought I'd say it but I think you are being naive. A multi millionaire could slip a player a few grand a week without anyone noticing.

or even maybe a one-off under the table payment to make sure he sign's for their club. that is somthing that a millionaire owner could do with-out getting noticed

ste lord · Post by **ste lord** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:53 pm

standishwarrior wrote:
gpartin wrote:Dave, I never thought I'd say it but I think you are being naive. A multi millionaire could slip a player a few grand a week without anyone noticing.

or even maybe a one-off under the table payment to make sure he sign's for their club. that is somthing that a millionaire owner could do with-out getting noticed

Not seen Joe Royal and his son for a bit have we !!!!!!

Kittwazzer · Post by **Kittwazzer** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:57 pm

Maybe the real truth will eventually emerge in someone's autobiography now that Longy has started the ball rolling!!