Radlinski Appointed Rugby General Manager

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Congratulations to the Chairman and Management at the club for Kris's appointment. I along with many other fans certainly have that feel good factor which has sorely been missing for far too many years. Success will not come overnight but now with the correct infrastructure established at the club it can only be a matter of time.So let's be patient and give our team maximum support.
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Kris is just such a LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wigan Warriors through and through and I love that he is still so involved in the club!
Wish list: Billy Slater please!!!!!!!!
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warrior49 wrote:Anyone spare a thought for Shaun Wane?

Personally I do not think the appointment of Rads in this role, is as good as it sounds.Only time will tell.
Why? It's seems clear enough to me it isn't a first team coaching role. That is MM's job assisted by SW. I don't think it's a path to head coaches job but is as I said earlier this seems like the job Joe Lydon was supposed to do. Other clubs might call it Director of Rugby but that usually means someone the coach reports to but here Rads reports to the coach!

I don't see how this impacts on SW's role or is anyway a kick in the teeth for him as it isn't a caoching role.

If you are not convinced Rads is the man for the job, fair enough I can see that to a degree given he has risen very rapidly to this position. I myself was expecting him to be a junior coach for some time but I think the job needs doing so we will have to wait and see.

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The impression I get from his comments and past action is that he might not want to be a pure coach and whilst he is happy coaching the scholarship players he does not feel ready to step up to a more senior coaching position yet. One has to remember Rads is still quite young. The only senior coaching he seems to be likely to do is specialised / maybe match day duties. His role re the players appears as an agony aunt figure filling a conselling type role for senior players. Fancy titles mean nothing.

The only person who seems under threat would be John Pendlebury partly because no announcement has been made re his position and piecemeal announcements make it difficult to understand the whole structure until every post is listed. Pendlebury is supposedly head of youth development but is Rads now Head of Scholarship with Pendlebury still in overall control. I presume in part Rads is replacing Brian Foley who retired on ill health.

Until the whole set up is announced and up and running it is very hard to know what to say but by all accounts the players are working harder than ever and one has to have confidence / belief in the new coaching team announced so far.

It will be interesting to see which players or when an announcement is made re dual contract players. Saints have announced Chris Dean will be a dual contract player with Widnes. I would think Chris Tuson at Wigan would be a good call for dual contract. I guess MM needs time to assess and make decisions.
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Personally I think it is a set-up :) He is still in his coaching roll but his new title lets MM send him into the SS Bar when the team loose. Well you are hardly likely to tare Rads to bits are you :lol:
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cpwigan wrote: It will be interesting to see which players or when an announcement is made re dual contract players. Saints have announced Chris Dean will be a dual contract player with Widnes. I would think Chris Tuson at Wigan would be a good call for dual contract. I guess MM needs time to assess and make decisions.
Are these dual contracts essentially salary cap fops? Say for arguments sake a young player is on £XYZ K per year. Would Wigan pay 60% and get salary cap relief on the remaining 40% and then negotitate playing duties based on that time split?
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cpwigan wrote: The only person who seems under threat would be John Pendlebury partly because no announcement has been made re his position and piecemeal announcements make it difficult to understand the whole structure until every post is listed. Pendlebury is supposedly head of youth development but is Rads now Head of Scholarship with Pendlebury still in overall control. I presume in part Rads is replacing Brian Foley who retired on ill health.
Pretty sure I read somewhere official Pendlebury is staying on.

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weststand-rich wrote:
cpwigan wrote: It will be interesting to see which players or when an announcement is made re dual contract players. Saints have announced Chris Dean will be a dual contract player with Widnes. I would think Chris Tuson at Wigan would be a good call for dual contract. I guess MM needs time to assess and make decisions.
Are these dual contracts essentially salary cap fops? Say for arguments sake a young player is on £XYZ K per year. Would Wigan pay 60% and get salary cap relief on the remaining 40% and then negotitate playing duties based on that time split?
It can't work like that. A player has a salary cap value which is calculated to include various bits of income and the salary cap value always resides with one club.

So if a player moves from Wigan none of his wages count on the cap. When a player arrives all his wages count.

So if you pay a junior player £1000 a month then his salary cap value for the year is £12K once he plays a qualifying match.

Now if he played for us half the time and Widnes half the time, each club paying £6000 each for the season it would not matter. Whoever he was playing for at the time would incur a £12K liability on the cap.

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...... so why have dual contract players? Are these contracts not just formalised loan agreements? You can have player X for Y games, we have him for Z games?

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ancientnloyal wrote:
KOOCH wrote:Nice to pop home for lunch and find this piece of news on the tv. Well done all round :eusa2: :eusa2: Things are really looking bright for the future.Look out Stains we are back.Not that we ever went away.Like the saying goes.Just sleeping giants.
feels like 1984 again :) when we were starting something great
Lets hope so. Everything seems to be falling into place
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