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gpartin
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cpwigan wrote:The only player I can see whose contract was significantly less this season than last is Andy Coley and he is the most likely to have relatives living in Merseyside

Least likely Karl Pryce
if it is Pryce SW can you tell him he's a lazy slob and we'll be glad to see the back of him when he goes to NL1 next season :lol:
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GeoffN
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cpwigan wrote:I have to agree with SW on that score. I do not believe the clubs should as of right publish the salaries of their employees. Where do you stop? The players, the CEO?
Why stop? Why should it be confidential for some but not others? We know how much, roughly, 90% of the population earn, why should RL players be an exception? Even in many other sports, wages/contracts are freely published.
cpwigan
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I guess in most other jobs the salary is fixed irrespective of the individual. To be fair I can see valid arguments for publishing salaries. It would give the public a true indication of how much each player/employee is paid relative to their contribution. Even in top jobs, salaries eventually become public domain. Maybe it is 'a British thing' maybe it would be better if things were out in the open.

I do think it is everybody or nobody
scouse warrior
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cpwigan wrote:The only player I can see whose contract was significantly less this season than last is Andy Coley and he is the most likely to have relatives living in Merseyside

Least likely Karl Pryce
what do you hope to acheive by this?? Why is Andy Coley most likely to have relatives living in Liverpool??? I dont even come from there or live there but am a Liverpool fan. You really make stuff up! So you ask me all this to guess my relative? I dont have a problem with anyone knowing who I am related to but I dare say you will own up to who you know? I am interested to hear who your source is as I would like to have the conversation regarding the wages with you and a few other people it concerns. Admit either your wrong or your source is.
DaveO
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GeoffN wrote:
cpwigan wrote:I have to agree with SW on that score. I do not believe the clubs should as of right publish the salaries of their employees. Where do you stop? The players, the CEO?
Why stop? Why should it be confidential for some but not others? We know how much, roughly, 90% of the population earn, why should RL players be an exception? Even in many other sports, wages/contracts are freely published.
They are and I think in some sports you get salary tiers where players of varying experience get slotted into certain tiers and it is known what tier they are in and so what they could earn.

This is no different to salary scales in the public sector where given what grade you are then you get paid a salary that fits into a certain range.

Dave
cpwigan
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scouse warrior wrote:
cpwigan wrote:The only player I can see whose contract was significantly less this season than last is Andy Coley and he is the most likely to have relatives living in Merseyside

Least likely Karl Pryce
what do you hope to acheive by this?? Why is Andy Coley most likely to have relatives living in Liverpool??? I dont even come from there or live there but am a Liverpool fan. You really make stuff up! So you ask me all this to guess my relative? I dont have a problem with anyone knowing who I am related to but I dare say you will own up to who you know? I am interested to hear who your source is as I would like to have the conversation regarding the wages with you and a few other people it concerns. Admit either your wrong or your source is.
Lol Take a chill pill. You appear out of nowhere screaming blue muder and sorry I do not believe you. I prefer to believe sources that for what 5 years have told me umpteen things and 99.9% of those have been spot on. The tell me things with a caveat I cannot publish them and other information that I can. Now I am sorry if that upsets you but the figures given to me make sense. They fit a salary cap of 1.6 million. They fit IL's stated desire to balance salaries across the first 17 - 20 and if they were not correct then the players below the top 20 highest paid players would be receiving far more than they do. You throw a hissy fit with no figures no names and demand X, Y and Z. I trust my sources based on 5 years of them being proven correct 99.9 times out of a 100.
scouse warrior
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cpwigan wrote:
scouse warrior wrote:
cpwigan wrote:The only player I can see whose contract was significantly less this season than last is Andy Coley and he is the most likely to have relatives living in Merseyside

Least likely Karl Pryce
what do you hope to acheive by this?? Why is Andy Coley most likely to have relatives living in Liverpool??? I dont even come from there or live there but am a Liverpool fan. You really make stuff up! So you ask me all this to guess my relative? I dont have a problem with anyone knowing who I am related to but I dare say you will own up to who you know? I am interested to hear who your source is as I would like to have the conversation regarding the wages with you and a few other people it concerns. Admit either your wrong or your source is.
Lol Take a chill pill. You appear out of nowhere screaming blue muder and sorry I do not believe you. I prefer to believe sources that for what 5 years have told me umpteen things and 99.9% of those have been spot on. The tell me things with a caveat I cannot publish them and other information that I can. Now I am sorry if that upsets you but the figures given to me make sense. They fit a salary cap of 1.6 million. They fit IL's stated desire to balance salaries across the first 17 - 20 and if they were not correct then the players below the top 20 highest paid players would be receiving far more than they do. You throw a hissy fit with no figures no names and demand X, Y and Z. I trust my sources based on 5 years of them being proven correct 99.9 times out of a 100.
what exactly dont you believe? That I am related to a player or that the players that you mention are not on the wages you say they are? I dont pop up out of nowhere, I am quite well known at the club and more than happy to discuss this topic with you and the people you mention.
I often read your posts which are highly opinionated but without much substance and a few things you have put make me chuckle. Your arrogance at being in the know is ridiculous that is why I will find out who you supposedly know and warn them that you are putting lies on this website.
By the way the bench tomorrow is Feka, Coley Mossop and Micky Mac. But again have I just made that up????
Have some guts and lets know your source, I can then put them right too!
cpwigan
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scouse warrior wrote:
cpwigan wrote:
scouse warrior wrote: what do you hope to acheive by this?? Why is Andy Coley most likely to have relatives living in Liverpool??? I dont even come from there or live there but am a Liverpool fan. You really make stuff up! So you ask me all this to guess my relative? I dont have a problem with anyone knowing who I am related to but I dare say you will own up to who you know? I am interested to hear who your source is as I would like to have the conversation regarding the wages with you and a few other people it concerns. Admit either your wrong or your source is.
Lol Take a chill pill. You appear out of nowhere screaming blue muder and sorry I do not believe you. I prefer to believe sources that for what 5 years have told me umpteen things and 99.9% of those have been spot on. The tell me things with a caveat I cannot publish them and other information that I can. Now I am sorry if that upsets you but the figures given to me make sense. They fit a salary cap of 1.6 million. They fit IL's stated desire to balance salaries across the first 17 - 20 and if they were not correct then the players below the top 20 highest paid players would be receiving far more than they do. You throw a hissy fit with no figures no names and demand X, Y and Z. I trust my sources based on 5 years of them being proven correct 99.9 times out of a 100.
what exactly dont you believe? That I am related to a player or that the players that you mention are not on the wages you say they are? I dont pop up out of nowhere, I am quite well known at the club and more than happy to discuss this topic with you and the people you mention.
I often read your posts which are highly opinionated but without much substance and a few things you have put make me chuckle. Your arrogance at being in the know is ridiculous that is why I will find out who you supposedly know and warn them that you are putting lies on this website.
By the way the bench tomorrow is Feka, Coley Mossop and Micky Mac. But again have I just made that up????
Have some guts and lets know your source, I can then put them right too!
:lol: You seem to have an agenda and no I prefer to believe my sources compared to somebody I do not know.

I even have a problem with your Scouse Warrior tag. A Scouser is somebody who comes from Liverpool, a supporter of Liverpool FC does not refer to themselves as a scouser as that does not signify they support Liverpool. They could support Everton and be scouser for example. So given something as simple as your tag is dubious and I do not know you I will trust my sources.

In the know No never claimed to be. People tell me things nothing more nothing less. I dareasay there are several posters on here who are far more in the know than me. Josie Andrews being an obvious example.

I know a bit about RL, more than most. Sorry if that upsets you but only stating the obvious.

You seem desparate to score one over me. Naming teams, reserves doesn't cut it with me. Very easy information to get hold of. The players having a laugh at Joel T and his mobile phones is much harder to get hold of.

However, back to salaries then I trust my sources and as yet all you have done is throw a hissy fit with no explanation, no examples, no nothing. Do explain to me how a salary cap of 1.6 million works under your system. I am not here to trade insults. Nor will I respond to your digging re sources. People tell me things because I keep things that need to be, confidential and only publish things that are given the OK.
scouse warrior
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I am sorry my scouse warrior tag causes you a problem :eh:
I dont phone my relative everyday to ask what little things the boys have all been laughing at during training but if you want I can contact him now and ask what they are having for tea tonight. Also ask how there swim went before tea hey? Or should I ask them who spun the wheel this week at training or how the table tennis comp is going?? They all had a little laugh when the names were picked out of a hat!!

Its not a competition about who know the most? You seem a bit sad and lonely without much of a life. I just came on here to disprove your knowledge of wages and I dont believe you ever got consent to publish your sources info on here but I will find out.

I also dont think I ever mentioned that I know alot about rl or the salary structure. Again you have dreamt this up! All I know is that your way off with your salary statements regarding a couple of players.

Why are you so pompous? Did I ever question your rugby knowledge?? No , just your facts regarding players wages. I will do my research on you and look forward to a chat with both our sources regarding wages.
weststand-rich
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Post by weststand-rich »

Calm down boys. Okay it's been proven that Karl Pryce is Scouse Warriors dad and CP is sleeping with Phil Bailey to pick up his pillow talk. That's where their info comes from.

And that Karl Pryce earns between 5p and 70K. In any case paying him anything other than washers is theft, and if the rumour about him going to Cas in todays Sun is true, then hurrah!!!!

PS A disclaimer. I do not buy The Sun for any other reason than the 2 speed cryptic crossword. I'm learning how to do them and the Sun is ideal because if you can't get the cryptic you can work the cryptic from the quick clue. But I do read the Dear Deidre photostory sometimes :eh:
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