But that does not follow the rule book that all officials SHOULD follow!!captinjack wrote:Speaking with a Saints fan this morning and he was of the opinion that if Ben had only hit Hohiai once and left it at that both plays would have been sent off. But once Ben had gone in for seconds whilst Hohiai was out he has given him a get out of jail card.
Why was the video referee not used?
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I did say in my reply it is all about opinions!!East Stand Faithful wrote:No happy to have a discussion on the issue and thought their was merit in a professional who is neutral on the matter having an opinion.TrueBlueWarrior wrote:Oh right because Tony Rea doesn't agree it's the end of the discussion. It's all about opinions, however by the LETTER OF THE LAW what Hohaia did WAS a RED card, irrelevant of how Flower reacted.East Stand Faithful wrote: http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 6/9515301?
Well Tony Rea doesn't agree with you either!
BTW I have also reffed RL in the past (junior level).
Not sure why people on here take things personally when others have a different view to theirs. Isn't that the point of the forum?
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Very true True Blue!
FWIW I agree that by the letter of the law LH could have had a red.
However, if that second punch had not been landed, I think most refs would have given both players a sin binning as it was 2 mins into the biggest game of the year.
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FWIW I agree that by the letter of the law LH could have had a red.
However, if that second punch had not been landed, I think most refs would have given both players a sin binning as it was 2 mins into the biggest game of the year.
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Exactly, I have not once condoned what Flower did and he rightly got a RED but so should Hohaia, however like you say the 2nd punch doesn't exist they both could have got YELLOW as a sensible option. However again, I might be being cynical here but I truly believe that Flower was getting a RED for the first punch anyway and Hohaia was getting away with it, but that is just because I think we are always on the wrong end of the stick in tight decisions in my opinion.East Stand Faithful wrote:Very true True Blue!
FWIW I agree that by the letter of the law LH could have had a red.
However, if that second punch had not been landed, I think most refs would have given both players a sin binning as it was 2 mins into the biggest game of the year.
Nil satis Nisi optimum!
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Re: Why was the video referee not used?
We know they should follow the rules, but unfortunately I think they all have different copies of the rules!TrueBlueWarrior wrote:But that does not follow the rule book that all officials SHOULD follow!!captinjack wrote:Speaking with a Saints fan this morning and he was of the opinion that if Ben had only hit Hohiai once and left it at that both plays would have been sent off. But once Ben had gone in for seconds whilst Hohiai was out he has given him a get out of jail card.
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...and there lies the problem, farcical!!captinjack wrote:We know they should follow the rules, but unfortunately I think they all have different copies of the rules!TrueBlueWarrior wrote:But that does not follow the rule book that all officials SHOULD follow!!captinjack wrote:Speaking with a Saints fan this morning and he was of the opinion that if Ben had only hit Hohiai once and left it at that both plays would have been sent off. But once Ben had gone in for seconds whilst Hohiai was out he has given him a get out of jail card.
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Re: Why was the video referee not used?
Trouble is the week before in the Warrington match the same ref made a totally different decisionEast Stand Faithful wrote:Very true True Blue!
FWIW I agree that by the letter of the law LH could have had a red.
However, if that second punch had not been landed, I think most refs would have given both players a sin binning as it was 2 mins into the biggest game of the year.
Nil satis Nisi optimum!
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Re: Why was the video referee not used?
Sorry for repeating my point from from another post but
LH : Grade e / f strike with elbows or forearms off the ball
Flower : Grade e / f strike with fist off the ball
I do think Flower's 2nd is the worst part but you can't ignore that LH started it.
Don't like the "on the street" comparisons but if I cracked someone in the street then got filled in for my behaviour I wouldn't expect the police to ignore what I did just because I lost the fight!
Obviously flower will get a longer ban and I get that but LH's behaviour still meets the 4-8 match ban criteria from the RFL guidelines.
Also LH has the aggravating factor that it was retaliation and not dealt with by the referee while any claim it was provoked (push from a player you are blocking chasing the ball) is weak.
Flowers will be a high tariff re the number of matches but LH should have no "discount" as it wasn't dealt with on the day.
Can't see it though sadly.......
LH : Grade e / f strike with elbows or forearms off the ball
Flower : Grade e / f strike with fist off the ball
I do think Flower's 2nd is the worst part but you can't ignore that LH started it.
Don't like the "on the street" comparisons but if I cracked someone in the street then got filled in for my behaviour I wouldn't expect the police to ignore what I did just because I lost the fight!
Obviously flower will get a longer ban and I get that but LH's behaviour still meets the 4-8 match ban criteria from the RFL guidelines.
Also LH has the aggravating factor that it was retaliation and not dealt with by the referee while any claim it was provoked (push from a player you are blocking chasing the ball) is weak.
Flowers will be a high tariff re the number of matches but LH should have no "discount" as it wasn't dealt with on the day.
Can't see it though sadly.......