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fozzieskem wrote:ST has had a completely new knee put noone really knows wether he will ever really truly regain full fitness

So no you dont sign player with such a nasty injury,happens when he is playing you support him any way the club can but to arrive with it is a big ask and i wo der if the clubs judgement was clouded by the fact of who it was.

I really hope he goes on and proves us all wrong nothing though so far suggests he will.

Your point about playets going on to have solid careers but were they margue players,on huge wages with massive expectations?

Just my opinion is all.
The fact the original knee injury is now not a problem at all and it is a completely unrelated injury that has not allowed him to play to the best of his ability sort of makes your point invalid!!

Again, the marquee point you make is irrelevant as unless you know all the wages all the players have received during their careers it is again invalid!!
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TrueBlueWarrior wrote:
fozzieskem wrote:ST has had a completely new knee put noone really knows wether he will ever really truly regain full fitness

So no you dont sign player with such a nasty injury,happens when he is playing you support him any way the club can but to arrive with it is a big ask and i wo der if the clubs judgement was clouded by the fact of who it was.

I really hope he goes on and proves us all wrong nothing though so far suggests he will.

Your point about playets going on to have solid careers but were they margue players,on huge wages with massive expectations?

Just my opinion is all.
The fact the original knee injury is now not a problem at all and it is a completely unrelated injury that has not allowed him to play to the best of his ability sort of makes your point invalid!!

Again, the marquee point you make is irrelevant as unless you know all the wages all the players have received during their careers it is again invalid!!
You really just talking rubbish now,given my point is about is about the signing of a player with a serious injury.

So I think I'll leave it there I've explained my point,you don't like it that's cool.
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fozzieskem wrote:
TrueBlueWarrior wrote:
fozzieskem wrote:ST has had a completely new knee put noone really knows wether he will ever really truly regain full fitness

So no you dont sign player with such a nasty injury,happens when he is playing you support him any way the club can but to arrive with it is a big ask and i wo der if the clubs judgement was clouded by the fact of who it was.

I really hope he goes on and proves us all wrong nothing though so far suggests he will.

Your point about playets going on to have solid careers but were they margue players,on huge wages with massive expectations?

Just my opinion is all.
The fact the original knee injury is now not a problem at all and it is a completely unrelated injury that has not allowed him to play to the best of his ability sort of makes your point invalid!!

Again, the marquee point you make is irrelevant as unless you know all the wages all the players have received during their careers it is again invalid!!
You really just talking rubbish now,given my point is about is about the signing of a player with a serious injury.

So I think I'll leave it there I've explained my point,you don't like it that's cool.
A serious injury that is no longer an issue at all, so not that serious eh?
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Wigan_forever19​85​ wrote:
fozzieskem wrote:ST has had a completely new knee put noone really knows wether he will ever really truly regain full fitness

So no you dont sign player with such a nasty injury,happens when he is playing you support him any way the club can but to arrive with it is a big ask and i wo der if the clubs judgement was clouded by the fact of who it was.

I really hope he goes on and proves us all wrong nothing though so far suggests he will.

Your point about playets going on to have solid careers but were they margue players,on huge wages with massive expectations?

Just my opinion is all.
It makes you wonder whether the marque player is a good thing or not because it does add a truck load of pressure onto that player to deliver
It does one that if the ruling hadn't been introduced wouldn't be there would it there is the simple logic,I think it would have been better which at one point was suggested,just raise the cap instead I think that would have been better in my view as you say it has added heaps of pressure on them though with Sam though that pressure would be there regardless.

You make an excellent point over his signing though,was it a PR-get him at all costs type move again I think you're right,he was going to put bums on seats with season ticket sales I don't think it quite worked out though as really the crowds seemed to stay static.

And again another point you raise,does he regret it?of course only he could answer that one that's a question I'll be he will ask himself in years to come.
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I've a volitive attitude re Sam. I'd love him to regain full fitness , recover is former glory days,he's still relatively young,and become our captain following on from SOL. Pipe dream. ?Probably :doz:
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He may not have put as many bums on seats as Wigan had hoped, but had he signed for say Wire it may have led to supporters NOT renewing tickets due to the club "not showing ambition." Just look at the uproar now on the "possibility" of losing Williams I think IL and Wigan were in a no win situation with Sam, just let's hope he can get back to fitness and see then what he is capable of.
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No straw damn us wrote:He may not have put as many bums on seats as Wigan had hoped, but had he signed for say Wire it may have led to supporters NOT renewing tickets due to the club "not showing ambition." Just look at the uproar now on the "possibility" of losing Williams I think IL and Wigan were in a no win situation with Sam, just let's hope he can get back to fitness and see then what he is capable of.
Exactly, sometimes people are never happy!!
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TrueBlueWarrior wrote:
fozzieskem wrote:
TrueBlueWarrior wrote: The fact the original knee injury is now not a problem at all and it is a completely unrelated injury that has not allowed him to play to the best of his ability sort of makes your point invalid!!

Again, the marquee point you make is irrelevant as unless you know all the wages all the players have received during their careers it is again invalid!!
You really just talking rubbish now,given my point is about is about the signing of a player with a serious injury.

So I think I'll leave it there I've explained my point,you don't like it that's cool.
A serious injury that is no longer an issue at all, so not that serious eh?
That serious injury change the way he plays though, so it is an issue.
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The booze hound wrote:
TrueBlueWarrior wrote:
fozzieskem wrote: You really just talking rubbish now,given my point is about is about the signing of a player with a serious injury.

So I think I'll leave it there I've explained my point,you don't like it that's cool.
A serious injury that is no longer an issue at all, so not that serious eh?
That serious injury change the way he plays though, so it is an issue.
Has it definitely, is there concrete evidence to suggest it has or is he not playing like he used to because he was carrying a different injury all season as confirmed by SW!!
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