Utility Back Required?

[Panchitta Marra]

Just 1 small thing I am not advocating we sack Wane. IL needs to force a review and look into getting an assistant from outside the club with real quality about them.

We need a specialist attack coach who can help with out halves as well. That is what I am advocating unless we get relegated but that is a long long long way away from happening. Even if we did a Leeds. WE just need new blood in the coaching. Adrian Lam would be ideal.

Specialist attack coach? New blood in the coaching staff and not sacking Wane? Not possible. Wane won't listen to anyone else.

Then he hangs himself eventually.

Our attack declined after Harris left but got embarrassing at times after Deacon left. If Wane think s he can carry on with this then early on next season at the latest he will get sacked. This season IL seems to accept injuries but what happens when it carries on.

I'm with Gimble on this.
The more I look at the business end of last season, the more I see random happenings and not all due to our own doing.
The two main happenings for me were facing a Hull FC side in the semi, a team who went on a massive bender after winning the challenge cup. This was a Hull side nowhere near the form of the one in CC, or prior to that.
In the GF, we had returning players, bouncing with energy, players that were stand out in that final. Warrington hardly carried an injury all season and that could be seen with jaded players, key players like Hill, Clarke and Simms who weren't the same as they were for most of the season.
You can only play what's in front of you, I understand that, but was life made easier for Wane with the events at the business end, or was it all down to his good judgement and skill factor.
I'm not convinced.

[Wandering Warrior]

Lam won't come back to Wigan.

If we are to bring in a quality assistant I'd go for Brett Hodgson at Widnes. Real quality player who could play full Back or half back.
Widnes play some good rugby when they have anything like a full team, which like us isn't very often.

That I know. Point I was making we need a half or an Full back as an assistant so Wane can have some new ideas.

Interesting you say new ideas, some might ask has he ever had any?

[Nezza Faz]

"Panchitta Marra" Quote :-

I'm with Gimble on this.
The more I look at the business end of last season, the more I see random happenings and not all due to our own doing.
The two main happenings for me were facing a Hull FC side in the semi, a team who went on a massive bender after winning the challenge cup. This was a Hull side nowhere near the form of the one in CC, or prior to that.
In the GF, we had returning players, bouncing with energy, players that were stand out in that final. Warrington hardly carried an injury all season and that could be seen with jaded players, key players like Hill, Clarke and Simms who weren't the same as they were for most of the season.
You can only play what's in front of you, I understand that, but was life made easier for Wane with the events at the business end, or was it all down to his good judgement and skill factor.
I'm not convinced.[/quote]




.......So on that basis PM, did our key players out missing for most of this season then not make it easier for all the other teams to play us, e.g. Sam, Gelling, Gildart, Manfredi, Bateman, Clubb, MM, etc. ??

Would that list not make it easier for other teams to beat us ?

[Panchitta Marra]

"Panchitta Marra" Quote :-

I'm with Gimble on this.
The more I look at the business end of last season, the more I see random happenings and not all due to our own doing.
The two main happenings for me were facing a Hull FC side in the semi, a team who went on a massive bender after winning the challenge cup. This was a Hull side nowhere near the form of the one in CC, or prior to that.
In the GF, we had returning players, bouncing with energy, players that were stand out in that final. Warrington hardly carried an injury all season and that could be seen with jaded players, key players like Hill, Clarke and Simms who weren't the same as they were for most of the season.
You can only play what's in front of you, I understand that, but was life made easier for Wane with the events at the business end, or was it all down to his good judgement and skill factor.
I'm not convinced.

.......So on that basis PM, did our key players out missing for most of this season then not make it easier for all the other teams to play us, e.g. Sam, Gelling, Gildart, Manfredi, Bateman, Clubb, MM, etc. ??

Would that list not make it easier for other teams to beat us ?[/quote]




Of course injuries this season have affected our results, and anyone would be stupid to suggest it hasn't, and neither have I in the above message.
I'm saying that Wane hasn't a clue how to run a back line and it shows with a full squad of players or not, and I'll stick by that comment.

[thegimble]

"Panchitta Marra" Quote :-

I'm with Gimble on this.
The more I look at the business end of last season, the more I see random happenings and not all due to our own doing.
The two main happenings for me were facing a Hull FC side in the semi, a team who went on a massive bender after winning the challenge cup. This was a Hull side nowhere near the form of the one in CC, or prior to that.
In the GF, we had returning players, bouncing with energy, players that were stand out in that final. Warrington hardly carried an injury all season and that could be seen with jaded players, key players like Hill, Clarke and Simms who weren't the same as they were for most of the season.
You can only play what's in front of you, I understand that, but was life made easier for Wane with the events at the business end, or was it all down to his good judgement and skill factor.
I'm not convinced.

.......So on that basis PM, did our key players out missing for most of this season then not make it easier for all the other teams to play us, e.g. Sam, Gelling, Gildart, Manfredi, Bateman, Clubb, MM, etc. ??

Would that list not make it easier for other teams to beat us ?

Of course injuries this season have affected our results, and anyone would be stupid to suggest it hasn't, and neither have I in the above message.
I'm saying that Wane hasn't a clue how to run a back line and it shows with a full squad of players or not, and I'll stick by that comment.
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Wane does know how to attack 2012 side the best attacking side we have had in SL but won nowt. We had good assistants in Deacon and Harris and once they left we have had the most obvious boring attack in SL.

Wane has to get a proper attack coach or otherwise we will be here next season debating the same issue. No point in saying players are missing when the 3rd game with many back we still look ineffective as ever near the line.

This needs sorting out. From end of 2014 to now our attack is crap most of the season.

[Wandering Warrior]

Yes, the attack is woeful. One old timer tried to tell me the players were poor, no point in arguing I just asked who is responsible for picking them? The response was IL which kind of took the wind out of my sails.
Whilst obviously not 100% the case I wonder how much the "cheap as chips" syndrome is coming into play and the owner being a self appointed rugby expert/coach as sometimes happens?

[pearsy]

thegimbal i cannot see Wigan getting a a attacking coach ulnless they can find one that comes from Wigan works for peanuts and agrees with everything Wane says

[Wes]

We are just under the cap no wiggle room for signings this season we are stuck with what we have!

My post was in reference to next season Wes, Sutcliffe is off contract and Wigan are interested.

I'd take sutcliffe, play him st 6 with George at 7 maybe.

[shaunedwardsfanclub]

We are just under the cap no wiggle room for signings this season we are stuck with what we have!

My post was in reference to next season Wes, Sutcliffe is off contract and Wigan are interested.

I'd take sutcliffe, play him st 6 with George at 7 maybe.

So would I, he can play centre, half back, full back and loose forward. His favourite position is 6. It is interesting that Leeds has not extended his contract.

[pedro]

Yes, the attack is woeful. One old timer tried to tell me the players were poor, no point in arguing I just asked who is responsible for picking them? The response was IL which kind of took the wind out of my sails.
Whilst obviously not 100% the case I wonder how much the "cheap as chips" syndrome is coming into play and the owner being a self appointed rugby expert/coach as sometimes happens?

cheap as chips? we are the only team with 2 marquee players and have class all over the pitch. Wait till they are back upto fitness