Wigan squad for Leeds (R21)

[Pbickerstaff]

10 forwards in the squad with no mature cover in the middle
One player missing has caused this down turn in form
Players playing out of position
Who picks the players to bring into the squad

[Caboosegg]

If TL is our attack coach. Sorry been a great player for Wigan. But an attack coach he is definitely not. Dint let briers go to saints get him back here. Fast

Amazing how quickly people turn

The attack has been poor all season. Who's fault is it? Just the players? If so then why do we need any coaches at all?

If you say so... that poor attack had us top of league until today with the WCC and Challenge Cup and it hasn't been because of 1 player (although he is a factor and his stand ins are not up to scratch)

[Charriots Offiah]

Been talking about squad rotation since before this period of 3 games in 10 days and Matt Peet just goes pretty much full strength for all games. This is the sort of tired performance you'd expect. I don't know whether it's too much confidence in our squad, not enough confidence in our fringe players, or not enough respect for Leeds, but I can't see how this has been beneficial for us.

Even when we were dominating possession early on our attack was lethargic. We weren't testing Leeds at all and there wasn't enough movement or conviction in our play.

Our discipline was poor but a lot of those came from some very lazy efforts. I can't even blame Keighran for his penalties conceded as it was clear he was struggling right from the start when he looked strained and running in treacle chasing down Rhyse Martin from the break.

I just hope this doesn't make things even worse, particularly with Smith likely to be suspended for a few games.

The referee penalised the wrong player when Martin was awarded a penalty which was further compounded by him issuing a yellow card to Keighran!

[fozzie58]

Amazing how quickly people turn

The attack has been poor all season. Who's fault is it? Just the players? If so then why do we need any coaches at all?

If you say so... that poor attack had us top of league until today with the WCC and Challenge Cup and it hasn't been because of 1 player (although he is a factor and his stand ins are not up to scratch)

Yes they’ve won stuff no doubt but if you think they’re playing well then it’s bordering on delusional same ball was more entertaining too

[fozzie58]

Been talking about squad rotation since before this period of 3 games in 10 days and Matt Peet just goes pretty much full strength for all games. This is the sort of tired performance you'd expect. I don't know whether it's too much confidence in our squad, not enough confidence in our fringe players, or not enough respect for Leeds, but I can't see how this has been beneficial for us.

Even when we were dominating possession early on our attack was lethargic. We weren't testing Leeds at all and there wasn't enough movement or conviction in our play.

Our discipline was poor but a lot of those came from some very lazy efforts. I can't even blame Keighran for his penalties conceded as it was clear he was struggling right from the start when he looked strained and running in treacle chasing down Rhyse Martin from the break.

I just hope this doesn't make things even worse, particularly with Smith likely to be suspended for a few games.

The referee penalised the wrong player when Martin was awarded a penalty which was further confounded by him issuing a yellow card to Keighran!

Moore should not be let near the game after he allowed the through the legs try stand a few years back

[Caboosegg]

The attack has been poor all season. Who's fault is it? Just the players? If so then why do we need any coaches at all?

If you say so... that poor attack had us top of league until today with the WCC and Challenge Cup and it hasn't been because of 1 player (although he is a factor and his stand ins are not up to scratch)

Yes they’ve won stuff no doubt but if you think they’re playing well then it’s bordering on delusional same ball was more entertaining too

Seen some very good performance this season and some poor ones. But I'm delusional we have played poorly and had two trophy's... wow the rest of these teams must be ameuter to lose to us at all this season.

[Firestarter]

If you say so... that poor attack had us top of league until today with the WCC and Challenge Cup and it hasn't been because of 1 player (although he is a factor and his stand ins are not up to scratch)

Yes they’ve won stuff no doubt but if you think they’re playing well then it’s bordering on delusional same ball was more entertaining too

Seen some very good performance this season and some poor ones. But I'm delusional we have played poorly and had two trophy's... wow the rest of these teams must be ameuter to lose to us at all this season.

We are the best team in the league, granted.We hold all the trophies.We are still favourites imo to win the grand final.Our defence is fantastic in the big games but not so in some bread and butter games.Is our attack good? Mmmm i reckon its dependant on certain players being in the team.We are winning by wearing teams out but sometimes you have to outplay teams in attacking rugby as we were never gonna wear leeds down today.for obvious 3 in 10 reasons

[fozzie58]

If you say so... that poor attack had us top of league until today with the WCC and Challenge Cup and it hasn't been because of 1 player (although he is a factor and his stand ins are not up to scratch)

Yes they’ve won stuff no doubt but if you think they’re playing well then it’s bordering on delusional same ball was more entertaining too

Seen some very good performance this season and some poor ones. But I'm delusional we have played poorly and had two trophy's... wow the rest of these teams must be ameuter to lose to us at all this season.

I’ve seen most of not games and have been to many of them the side as a whole hasn’t played to their strengths if you think they have that’s great I’m chuffed for you I really am maybe I just prefer to be entertained and if trophies come then that’s brilliant but I’m struggling to think of a game that got me off my feet bar the WCC but if you have great for you

[Graham1]

Yes we have won 2 trophies. Totally outplayed by Penrith but a tremendous defensive peformance and a favourable try decision. CC we were awful against Sheffield but brilliant in the semi and final. So we’ve played well 3 times this year the rest of the time we have been boring and dependent on French and Field magic to win us games.

Regarding TL not a matter of changing.sides there is a big difference between a great player and coach. But the fact is our attack as a team is and has been clueless for the last 2 seasons. And something or someone needs to change.

I know Byrne might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but for me Walters is the most disappointing of the 2 and needs to be playing in the reserves. I would rather give game time to Hill and encourage the lad instead of being 18th man most of the time. He scored twice today in the reserve match today.

Bring Farrimond, Forber and Hill into the squad, let’s see if youth can get us through Saints.

We haven’t see us create an overlap from a scrum since the days of Briers. So it’s pretty obvious who our next signing needs to be. We have the players just need the coaching.

[fozzie58]

The loss of Briers had been papered over by the trophies I shudder to think what he can do if he does end up at saints and I think Graham’s assessment of 3 great performances is very fair