Wigan squad for Leeds (R21)

[Graham1]

The backs only get involved when the opposing team kick the ball into our half. The rest of the time our forwards are just battering away at their defences.Its not just the drives they are doing it’s the amount of tackling and big minutes Thompson and co are playing.

They are knackered and if we are not careful these guys are going to pick up serious injuries because of it.

The coaching team need to get their act together and fast. Farrell playing 3 games in 10 days, does not make sense. When you have Hill and Walters available.

[fozzie58]

The forwards are knackered because of our style of play, forwards taking the ball up on every tackle followed by a Smith kick and it doesn’t matter where we on the field.

Farrell is our oldest player and has played in all 3 games, sometimes as hooker which can be one of the most exhausting positions to play.

Mago probably not played 80 minutes in all 3. We had young Harvey Hill playing in the reserves yesterday. And Walters has yet to break a sweat. Yet we are killing Thompson, Havard, Nsemba and Ellis.

Peet now finds himself in the same position as Lam did . No superstars to rely on.
The next few weeks is going to be a big test of his coaching abilities.

Saints will have Dodds and Mybye in the halves and their pack is getting stronger each week whereas ours are knackered. A big turnaround is required if we are going to finish in top 2

Your point about Lam is a very good one,yesterday was as bad as watching his side play like you say it’s now up to Peet to really show his mettle and rest players instead of grinding them into the floor oddly I still feel Peet is the right man for the job even with this deadly dull style of play Wigan have at present,that this team is so reliant on 2 blokes is a worrying one though Field has been a shadow of his form from last season that he’s scored only 2 tries tell us that.

[Firestarter]

I get the point ie field.He doesnt seem to want/ or cant stretch his legs fully atm.Hes still very dangerous but hes definately not running 100% still

[fozzie58]

I get the point ie field.He doesnt seem to want/ or cant stretch his legs fully atm.Hes still very dangerous but hes definately not running 100% still

Yea I wonder if its a confidence thing with him but its dragged on all season and given a bit of sun on his back I did wonder if we where going to see that side of his game come out,lets be fair when hes off on a run theres no better sight in rugby league and defensively hes sound as ever but I do want to see him off on a run again.

[Ipinwigan]

Watched the Harry Smith sending off, it was the act of a petulant child after things haden't gone his way, not good at all.
Also watched the Peet interview and he was very honest about errors, soft penalties, discipline and a general poor performance, the trouble is, he is having to do this type of interview more often.
He needs to get a grip of the team and instill some discipline and then come up with attacking options, because without Bevan we are totally lost and have been for weeks.

[archiekeith]

Farrimond need's to be given a chance if he had been earlier like eckersley hope I've spelt the name right he would have gained the experience and helped the other players Fresh legs etc Some of the team don't seem to want to play attack none existent.Coaching fault that the team are so tired should have used younger players rotated more sensibly Head Coach must take responsibility for that he must have final say in who plays and doesn't play.Lets hope it doesn't come up and bite him on the backside.

I don't get the"so tired" bit. They are professionals ,fit young men or supposed to be. If not that's as you imply the conditioning/ coaching. I've recently witnessed 3xweeks of the Tour de France the most gruelling sport there is The cyclists exhibit fitness,strength, determination etc If anyone of our players don't live upto these tenets They should be shown the door.

[Mouse13]

Farrimond need's to be given a chance if he had been earlier like eckersley hope I've spelt the name right he would have gained the experience and helped the other players Fresh legs etc Some of the team don't seem to want to play attack none existent.Coaching fault that the team are so tired should have used younger players rotated more sensibly Head Coach must take responsibility for that he must have final say in who plays and doesn't play.Lets hope it doesn't come up and bite him on the backside.

I don't get the"so tired" bit. They are professionals ,fit young men or supposed to be. If not that's as you imply the conditioning/ coaching. I've recently witnessed 3xweeks of the Tour de France the most gruelling sport there is The cyclists exhibit fitness,strength, determination etc If anyone of our players don't live upto these tenets They should be shown the door.

Have you ever played the game??? Obviously not. Its not the fitness and conditioning that is the issue, its the contacts the players make.
An hard tackle can equate to a car crash, and to do that say on average 30 x a game. That equals 90 car crashes in 9 days, even superman might be a bit sore and tired after that.

I would love to see a cyclist keep getting back on the bike after that many hits

[the pieman]

Farrimond need's to be given a chance if he had been earlier like eckersley hope I've spelt the name right he would have gained the experience and helped the other players Fresh legs etc Some of the team don't seem to want to play attack none existent.Coaching fault that the team are so tired should have used younger players rotated more sensibly Head Coach must take responsibility for that he must have final say in who plays and doesn't play.Lets hope it doesn't come up and bite him on the backside.

I don't get the"so tired" bit. They are professionals ,fit young men or supposed to be. If not that's as you imply the conditioning/ coaching. I've recently witnessed 3xweeks of the Tour de France the most gruelling sport there is The cyclists exhibit fitness,strength, determination etc If anyone of our players don't live upto these tenets They should be shown the door.

With professional RL players i dont think its so much tired, its more that their bodies are taking an absolute battering, and they need time to recover. Yes, there will be an element of tiredness comes into it, when we've played 4 times in 2 weeks, but if you arent getting over the bumps / bruises, then it will take its toll on you during games

the comparision with the Tour de France, isnt quite the same as they arent being battered by opposition players. I get what you are saying, but the fitness is different as its all aerobic / anaerobic (admittedly they overcome some crashes), so their recovery is also different to that of a professional RL player

[the pieman]

I get the point ie field.He doesnt seem to want/ or cant stretch his legs fully atm.Hes still very dangerous but hes definately not running 100% still

its all about confidence. Whilst i'm not saying i'm an athlete in the mould of French or Field, i have had similar injuries, and when you are training, you are very tentative about going full out in case it goes again. So for a finely tuned athlete like Field, he is probably subconsciously holding back for fear of his hamstring going again. he was the same in his 1st season over here when he came back from injury in the 1st game. He never got going at all and looked to be lacking in confidence in himself

[josie andrews]

Farrimond need's to be given a chance if he had been earlier like eckersley hope I've spelt the name right he would have gained the experience and helped the other players Fresh legs etc Some of the team don't seem to want to play attack none existent.Coaching fault that the team are so tired should have used younger players rotated more sensibly Head Coach must take responsibility for that he must have final say in who plays and doesn't play.Lets hope it doesn't come up and bite him on the backside.

I don't get the"so tired" bit. They are professionals ,fit young men or supposed to be. If not that's as you imply the conditioning/ coaching. I've recently witnessed 3xweeks of the Tour de France the most gruelling sport there is The cyclists exhibit fitness,strength, determination etc If anyone of our players don't live upto these tenets They should be shown the door.

With professional RL players i dont think its so much tired, its more that their bodies are taking an absolute battering, and they need time to recover. Yes, there will be an element of tiredness comes into it, when we've played 4 times in 2 weeks, but if you arent getting over the bumps / bruises, then it will take its toll on you during games

the comparision with the Tour de France, isnt quite the same as they arent being battered by opposition players. I get what you are saying, but the fitness is different as its all aerobic / anaerobic (admittedly they overcome some crashes), so their recovery is also different to that of a professional RL player

Stick to watching the Tour de France then!

How you can compare the two sports is hilarious! You play for nigh on eighty minutes getting punched & see how you fare doing it three times in nine days!

We’ve played more games than any other team, have all the trophies yet you still complain. I was at that game, as every game, & the forwards were tired but still played better than expected.

I know we re all disappointed but get over it it’s a game not a matter of life & death!